Tuesday, November 10, 2009

Don Manzullo is 100% On Abortion

In a previous post I was discussing the tension between social conservatism and fiscal conservatism in social conservatives. So I of course I needed to see how my congressman Don Manzullo voted on the Stupak-Pitts Amendment which prohibits federal funding of abortion and federal subsidies for insurance coverage of abortion. My Cong. Critter did good. He voted the NRLC way and thus helped to get anti-abortion Democrat votes for the Health Care Destruction bill which passed the House.

Way to go Don. And I used to like you. I might as well be voting for a Democrat or a Libertarian.

Cross Posted at Classical Values

5 comments:

Tom Cuddihy said...

msimon,
you're being completely disingenous about this amendment. pro-life democrats didn't need the amendment to pass in order to have cover to vote for the health care takeover, they just needed their vote on the amendment recorded. That way they could say they voted for life while also voting for health care.
For pro-life Republicans, they faced either voting for this amendment, or voting against it, having it fail, and then having the pro-life democrats who voted for the amendment still have cover to vote for the bill.

When you start thinking in politics that you really can play three level chess and go three tactical steps ahead of your opponent, that's when you get the strategic rug pulled out from under you.

Politics ain't chess because people don't always do what you think they might or should.

For a person of pro-life conviction, this was the right vote because it directly minimizes the harm--no guarantees the other direction

M. Simon said...

If you follow the links back to their source you will find that until the abortion provisions were stricken from the bill it did not have enough votes to pass.

Was not voting on the amendment a risk for the Republicans? Sure. And here we are with a bigger risk. About half way to passage instead of a chance to nip it in the bud.

But I understand politicians. No profiles in courage available.

Of course it really comes down to the voters. They are going to get what they want most. Good and hard.

M. Simon said...

For a person of pro-life conviction, this was the right vote because it directly minimizes the harm--no guarantees the other direction

Dood. Where you get your stuff? There is no guarantee in any direction. For many of the Ds who voted for the amendment, it was their only anti-abortion vote according to the chart at the link. Do you think some voted for it - not out of conviction - but so the whole bill can pass?

And then at some future date they can vote the other way.

Do a little research (took me 10 minutes to figure out what was going on). The Rs have been had. Over abortion.

As I said - socons keep saying that they are the only fisc cons that stick to their word. Well just wave the abortion flag and they fall in line. And if fiscal conservatism has to be set aside. Well. A person has to have their priorities straight.

And all this fuss over misdemeanor manslaughter and the woman (initiator and accomplice) goes free.

RavingDave said...

What is your position on slavery ?

Had this been a vote on slavery, would the same logic apply ?


Hmmmm....


David

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