Geoffrey Lean is Britain's longest-serving environmental correspondent, having pioneered reporting on the subject almost 40 years ago. (according to the mast head at Telegraph.UK) Well he has got a hold of two new super scientific reports that say that for sure glaciers are melting and it is all man's fault.
But I don't want to discuss that directly. What I want to look at are some of the comments.
coltek on Jan 27th, 2010 at 2:37 pmI detect a note of scepticism. But in fact there is a list of expanding glaciers. And that is not the only list. I have a list of twelve more glaciers that haven't heard of global warming. And the first on that list of 12? Himalayan glaciers are growing, not shrinking. Oh. The humanity! How embarrassing for the IPCC. And wouldn't you know it, some folks who do not claim to be scientists have predicted that if the Himalayan glaciers keep growing at their present rate they will cover the Earth in 47,359 years(plus or minus 3.29 months) or less . It is way worse than we thought.
Apparently there are also a lot of glaciers that have not heard of this report.
Rocky on Jan 27th, 2010 at 3:38 pmClimate Scientists can work really fast. Peer review (was it reviewed?) that normally takes months can be done in a matter of days if the science is right.
Has anyone noticed that whenever a climate doom claim gets blown out of the water, at least one other “piece of important research” miraculously pops up to take its place within about 48 hours – usually “worse than we thought”?
Coincidence? And of course having seen all the other “peer reviewed” “science” fall by the wayside, we are going to believe this one.
JohnRS on Jan 27th, 2010 at 4:16 pmA Classical Music Fan. Me Too!
Just a quick thought Geoff, while you’ve got your investigative journo hat on, who funded the studies at The University of Calgary and World Glacier Monitoring Service?
Not that nice IPCC lot was it?
Or Dr P? Or the WWF?
Perish the thought that there might be a bit of rent seeking going on here!! In the spirit of fairness you will check and let us know though, wont you?
As the Who put it so “We won’t get fooled again”
cheshirered on Jan 27th, 2010 at 5:13 pmPublic support for Catastrophic Man Made Global Warming (CMMGW) even in the USA is dropping precipitously. And speaking of precipitation, time for another song.
Geoffrey, I’m afraid nobody is taking these claims of man made climate change seriously any more.
Well, apart from extremists, eco-nut jobs and those whose job – or reputation, depends on perpetuating the myth.
Glaciers melting, sea ice melting, rain, hurricanes, fluffy bunny wunnies drowning blah blah…heard it all before and back then it depended on what we were told was legitimate, peer-reviewed fully verifiable data that put the science of global warming ‘beyond debate’.
How hollow that claim sounds now.
The credibility of all that previously ’settled’ data has now completely and totally collapsed under the collective weight of Climategate, IPCC data corruption, Pachauri’s inane utterances, deliberate lies and a host of failed computer models that failed miserably to predict the recent halt in rising temperatures and current cooling since around 2002.
There is nothing of this theory left that deserves to be taken seriously, and that includes journalists who refuse to address the obvious deficiencies in their own argument.
In short, it’s over for AGW.
Hamish Redux on Jan 27th, 2010 at 5:40 pmHamish, it is worse than we thought. They are already gone.
I’ve heard that by 2035, or possibly 2350, there will be no polar bears in the Himalayas.
iain on Jan 27th, 2010 at 9:45 pmAh a sceptic. (Well it is a Brit paper. And I do like the Brit spelling.)
as you can see from the above comments (ALL the above comments!)
A. No one believes this drivel any more.
B. No one cares.
You now have the worst accolade any journalist can have.
You are boring.
MSimon on Jan 27th, 2010 at 11:53 pmHmmmmmm. That name looks familiar. I think the reference to Chicago in a Brit paper gives the show away. I confess. Guilty as charged.
Crisis in the Rockies? What about the crisis on the Great Plains? Just 18,000 years ago Chicago was covered by a mile of ice. I blame global warming.
JohnT on Jan 28th, 2010 at 1:14 amJohn has been watching far too many American gangster movies. He must be an Edward G. Robinson fan.
Gimme all your money – or the glacier gets it!
andrewb on Jan 28th, 2010 at 6:54 amSo many cynics. So little time. That is all the fun we have time for now folks. But tune in tomorrow for the next episode of It's Worse Than We Thought.
The only way the “World Glacier Monitoring Service” (I can’t believe there is such a specific organisation) is going to get attention and funding is if it cries wolf. 2035 sounds good, but unbelievable… 2350 and no-one will be interested..
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Cross Posted at Classical Values