Saturday, January 10, 2009

American Conservatism

American conservatism is different. What are the core beliefs of American Conservatives?

Government has certain limited functions (keeping the peace, enforcing contracts, limiting fraud, defending the nation, enhancing commerce by reducing impediments) that should be strictly limited in order to minimize the damage that government operatives operating under the power of the state can do.

By that definition there are very few conservatives in America. There were proportionately a lot more when the nation was founded.

America has devolved into two main camps - the moral socialists and the economic socialists.

The "leave us alone" camp - the true American Conservatives - are not well represented.

Even the moral socialists are not well represented in the media which consists mainly of economic socialists.

So who are the American Conservatives in the media? John Stossel, and Penn and Teller.

Limbaugh, Hannity, etc. are in the moral socialist faction.

Cross Posted at Classical Values


RavingDave said...

Token response to your use of the term "moral socialists". The "moralists" are not socialists, and the "Socialists" are not moral.


M. Simon said...

Socialism is the imposition by government force what people are otherwise unwilling to agree to.

In the socialism of the 30s (Russia, Germany, Italy) the moral and economic aspects of socialism were joined.

In America we have divided socialism into two "competing" parties. One economic the other moral.

Which leaves out the original American concept of government - "leave us alone".

John Lofton, Recovering Republican said...

Forget "conservatism," please. It has, operationally, de facto, been Godless and thus irrelevant. Secular conservatism will not defeat secular liberalism because to God they are two atheistic peas-in-a-pod and thus predestined to failure. As Stonewall Jackson's Chief of Staff R.L. Dabney said of such a humanistic belief more than 100 years ago:

”[Secular conservatism] is a party which never conserves anything. Its history has been that it demurs to each aggression of the progressive party, and aims to save its credit by a respectable amount of growling, but always acquiesces at last in the innovation. What was the resisted novelty of yesterday is today .one of the accepted principles of conservatism; it is now conservative only in affecting to resist the next innovation, which will tomorrow be forced upon its timidity and will be succeeded by some third revolution; to be denounced and then adopted in its turn. American conservatism is merely the shadow that follows Radicalism as it moves forward towards perdition. It remains behind it, but never retards it, and always advances near its leader. This pretended salt bath utterly lost its savor: wherewith shall it be salted? Its impotency is not hard, indeed, to explain. It .is worthless because it is the conservatism of expediency only, and not of sturdy principle. It intends to risk nothing serious for the sake of the truth."

Our country is collapsing because we have turned our back on God (Psalm 9:17) and refused to kiss His Son (Psalm 2).

John Lofton, Editor,

Recovering Republican

M. Simon said...

As I recall Mr. S. Jackson's side was not exactly right with The Maker. Or at least they didn't have enough divisions.

BTW our nation seemed to have been founded by a fair number of seculars - Deists and Unitarians is what they called themselves back in the day.

And B. Franklin was a real "p***y" hound. The real conservatives have given us some rather interesting disasters. Alcohol Prohibition, and now coming home to roost Drug Prohibition. Both fine products of the moral socialists among us.