tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8282587.post6377822001599521361..comments2024-03-19T01:48:39.709+00:00Comments on Power and Control: Hope And Change The DataM. Simonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09508934110558197375noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8282587.post-87053811134802317942009-12-16T18:03:16.052+00:002009-12-16T18:03:16.052+00:00Actually, the "raw" data is fine. I'...Actually, the "raw" data is fine. I've been working with the GHCN unadjusted land temperature data for 2 weeks, trying to find a warming trend. Links to raw data and my source code are at warmingslide.wordpress.com. I intend to move this to justdata.wordpress.com over the weekend.<br /><br />Even though the distribution of data gathering stations moved east->west & back again, there is no evidence of warming(or cooling) in the raw data.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8282587.post-4962286570820010092009-12-16T17:24:25.937+00:002009-12-16T17:24:25.937+00:00I do not like the chaotic point of view. I think c...I do not like the chaotic point of view. I think climate is a Complex Adaptive System (CAS) on earth. <br /><br />When you view some of these CAS, one comes to realize that even the guys that appear really smart are not (alas we are only human beings not Gods). It is currently, simply put, beyond our ability.<br /><br />Has anyone noticed that none of the models account for negative feedbacks. In other words, if CO2 is heating the atmosphere should warmer days on average create longer growing periods for plants?<br /><br />should that not translate into more plants consuming more CO2 and at some point equilibrium or a reduction?<br /><br />What about cloud formation from warmer temps affecting the albido?<br /><br />There are so many factors, so many that we don't even have a clue! Many undiscovered.<br /><br />You don't see that in their reports do you!<br /><br />No, it's not chaotic, it's complex and adaptive and we are incapable of doing the math.<br /><br />Saludos<br />WillWill Kellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07845981343969519861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8282587.post-30548044391133366542009-12-16T02:27:56.048+00:002009-12-16T02:27:56.048+00:00You said...
Fortunately the Warmongers...Proof is...You said...<br /><br />Fortunately the Warmongers...Proof is in the prediction. None of the models predicted the cooling of the last ten years...The trouble is that no matter how good the models are prediction is essentially impossible. Why? Because climate is a chaotic system. That is: it is approximately linear with unpredictable jumps of indeterminate magnitude....<br /><br />This paragraph just sums up all we need to know. Two crucial points, lack of predictive power of the model, and the chaotic nature of the system, either one would blow the climate models out of the water, but both together simply make these climate 'scientists' look ridiculous.<br /><br />Plus, you coined the wonderful term 'warmongers'! I love it.Tom Bridgelandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13098048586042365606noreply@blogger.com